# Episode: The Human Stakes Behind the Data

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## [The Human Stakes Behind the Data](https://open.spotify.com/episode/5N65PvVhbs4YbFFeorOpiG?go=1&sp_cid=352532909ba89b16c956312e0a9b2663&utm_source=embed_player_p&utm_medium=desktop)

### Jun 18· [The Totally Adequate Podcast](https://open.spotify.com/show/4tvQixOSrTtIWDWRyT2RkB?go=1&sp_cid=352532909ba89b16c956312e0a9b2663&utm_source=embed_player_p&utm_medium=desktop)

**Guests:**

Shanna Adamic, Author, Audacious Optimism; Director, Oracle Health Executive Content & Oracle TV  
Dr. Luke Hansen, MD, MHS, Chief Medical Officer, Arcadia

**Host:** April Beane, VP of Marketing, Quest Analytics®

#### About this Episode

Recorded live at Quest Analytics® Vision Quest 26 in Chicago, this episode brings together a patient and a clinician for a candid conversation about what provider networks mean at the human level. Shanna Adamic — author, speaker, and six-year patient navigating misdiagnosis, fragmented care, and a life-saving brain surgery — interviews Dr. Luke Hansen, Chief Medical Officer at Arcadia, on why the work of building networks is mission-driven.

**Topics Covered**

- Shanna’s six-year patient journey — and what it taught her about fragmentation, misdiagnosis, and the importance of connected care  
- Dr. Hansen on why clinical medicine defaults to the most common diagnosis, and what it takes to get to the right answer  
- Why a “contracted network” and an “accessible network” are not the same thing — and what health plan professionals can do about it  
- How the networks our clients build create real-world access for real people  
- Why both guests believe we may be entering the first truly intelligent era of healthcare

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